08 - January 21st thru January 26th
2000, Vol X
Al-Jifry:
“Violence, in our opinion,
is more of an ‘animal’ rather than a ‘human’ attribute”
Q: Local and world public opinion have followed
up the progress of you and 15 of your southern leaders being tried in absentia
and the sentences passed against you, meanwhile contacts are still going
on between yourself and the president. You are exercising political and
information activity, could you please give an explanation for all this?
A:
We have already stated our position on these illegal, illogical
and selective trials. We said the issue at stake was political rather than
criminal, and we demanded all sides to go beyond the aftermath and consequences
of these trials so that these would not backfire on the prospects of the
Yemeni question.
It seems you mention the contacts ‘between myself and the president’
as if they were a matter of fact, which is not the case at all. If they
have ever occurred, I would not have covered them, because they are legitimate,
even desirable. I lead a solemn opposition and offer thoughtful views and
chart a peaceful course of action, consequently I harbor no personal enmity
against any figure. Even belligerent foes hold talks. The fact that I exercise
sophisticated and effective political and information activity does not
require any further explanation, because it is in the nature of things,
because we are a movement with visions and platforms, a party which pursues
peaceful political action.
Q: Reports confirm you have recently met with
prominent leaders from the People’s General Congress(PGC)? The signals
made for the first time by the PGC and reiterated by its leading committee,
were interpreted by political observers as overtures towards reconciliation
and closing the dossiers of the past. Are these signals the outcome of
your meetings?
A: Never have our contacts been
interrupted at any moment with the leading figures from the PGC, the Islah,
the opposition, or with the independent patriotic figures. We have
been meeting and still meet most social, political, cultural and intellectual
leaders whenever they are abroad on a visit, for business or medication.
But these gatherings are held in public, without secrets or screens. No
official meeting for ‘dialogue’, however, has taken place, although dialogue
is the very thing we have been calling for as a civilized means to resolve
differences, handle crisis or aftermath of conflicts. This has been our
method since the beginning of our party some half a century ago. Given
this method and policy, it is unthinkable, on our part, to conceal any
dialogue should it occur. If the brothers in the leading committee of the
PGC had endorsed a policy of universal reform( the political, economic,
social and constitutional reforms) on the way to reconciliation and closing
the dossiers, this would have been a positive step, but it is short of
the required mechanism, and these mechanisms are attainable only through
genuine, objective dialogue, rather than raising some slogans which are
bereft of any content or any concrete steps on the ground. Slogan mongering
is a barren style; it destroys credibility, solves no crisis, build up
no state, heals no wounds, satisfies no empty stomach, removes no anxiety
or
fear, protects no citizen, preserves no homeland, halts no political,
social or economic chaos or conflicts.
For this reason, we believe that it is a waste of time to reduce the
cardinal national issues into mere slogans, and this waste of time should
come to an end; we should resort to dialogue in earnest; neither time nor
the world would wait for us.
Our return from abroad is conditional on the realization of a favorable
atmosphere which may allow us to play an active role in nation-building.
Thus the return should have a political rather than humanitarian character.
Because we have left the country for political reasons, there must
be a dialogue to achieve universal reconciliation, bring crisis and conflict
to an end and lay down the grounds for reform, so that we may end deterioration
on political, economic, social and other levels.
Q: While several opposition parties accuse
the government of pursuing a policy of cloning parties and newspapers,
of marginalizing or curbing
certain oppositional political parties and
forces at home, we see your party, by contrast, intensifies its activities,
and prepares for local conferences, notably in the eastern governorates?
Would not this confirm the current suspicions that the government is preparing
the stage for RA to displace certain political forces which uphold, among
other things, the question of the South? Would RAY take this window of
opportunity? Or would it ultimately endure what the Islah is suffering
today?
A: As a matter of fact, never has
any other party endured what RAY has suffered so far from the attempts
to marginalize, remove, or ‘clone’ it, not to mention pressures and persecution.
This has been going on since it was established in early fifties. Unlike
other groups, RAY is also the only political organization which does not
receive aid from the authorities - or others. We are also the only party
censored by the official media, and the most prosecuted by the present
government. During the last three years, more than 120 of our members and
cadres were arrested in Sana’a, Taiz, Lahaj, Adan, Abian, Shabwah and Hadhramout.
A sinister media campaign was unleashed against our party, and the government
declined to initiate any dialogue with it although it held talks with all.
Yet, by dint of being genuine, seasoned and experienced, our party could
emerge from the ordeal stronger, tougher and more popular.
As for the local conferences, they testify to our democratic commitment
in
word and deed. We do not wave theory without practice. For RAY democracy
is a genuine part of our policy, rather than a temporary or conjectural
response to new ideas or circumstances. Since 1951, our party endorsed
and urged for pluralistic democracy at a time when no other party in most
of the Arab and third world countries ever adopted such a democratic approach.
We also applied democratic norms within the frameworks of our party. In
Lahaj, for example, our influential pioneers initiated a legislative assembly
and independent judiciary. Local primaries shall not be confined to certain
districts, but will systematically cover all branches of the party.On the
other hand, no authority is inclined to prepare the stage for another,
rival party. It is the parties themselves that assume this burden of their
self-promotion, activity or existence by means of their discourse, visions
or political action. RAY has not been confined to criticize the government
or uncover its blunders, but offered also the objective alternative. And
it succeeded. It offered a clear vision for the present and the future,
but declined to shed tears on the tombstones of the past, and shunned away
from sinking into quagmires of old bloody conflicts. Consequently, RAY
is not a captive of the past, but a free agent engaged in the present and
the future. The idea or conception that there is an attempt on part of
our party or other circles to let RAY displace other groups is totally
irrelevant for the following reasons:
A- RAY is a genuine, established political party in the patriotic movement,
with a well-known historical record. It is not a new comer seeking a vacancy
for itself at the expense of others.
B- Many elements emerged from beneath RAY’s cloak, some of whom tried,
in vain, to displace it. That is because RAY’s vision of democracy, sound
unity, moderation, tolerant Islamic discourse, non-violence, market-based
social-oriented economics, anticipated our time. With this unique vision,
RAY was too solid to replace, displace or marginilize. When the right time
for this vision came, RAY emerged to be itself not to replace any other
entity. We decline to take the place of others, simply because such a
position is inconsistent with our visions, methods, policy, or with
the expectations of our people or the realities of our time.
We also believe that a unified Yemen as sound system of government
would be large enough to accommodate all parties, groups or individuals,
willing to take part in nation-building. True democracy does not allow
for displacement or disfranchising, because such notions are the attributes
of totalitarianism from which our nation suffered and at which, thanks
God, we have never attempted. We strive for a unified Yemen, for a sound,
sustainable union, which may provide a solution of the so-called “ The
South Question”. We believe in diversity within unity, and realize that
the consequences of the crisis have already crushed everybody, in the south,
in the north, in the east, in the west or in the middle. They have crushed,
in varying degrees, the employed, the unemployed, the countryside, the
urban centers, the nomads, the urban, the educated, the illiterate, civil
servants and self-employed, the civilians and the military, and so on and
so forth. Hence, it is verging on the impossible to seek a partial solution
for one part of the nation. We seek a universal, balanced resolution which
takes regional
disparities into consideration.
Undoubtedly, RAY would positively respond to any rational course, any
dialogue conducive to build the foundations for a sound union, in terms
of government, nation or institutions, within the framework of a true democratic
alternative. True democracy is inconceivable without laying down the groundwork
of full reform, mentioned earlier, and without universal national reconciliation,
in the realistic sense we have announced, the sense that reconciliation
shall not be an instrument to enhance power, or to distribute government
posts and positions as rewards, profits, remunerations or appeasement prizes.
Q: How do you conceive the democratic atmosphere
in the country?
A: In addition to what has been
said earlier, democracy in our view is a comprehensive system, meeting
all demands across the nation. If democracy is ‘tailored’, as it is being
now, to ‘suite’ the needs of a certain party or group, then it gives birth
to a ‘ metamorphosed freak’, and the democratic course loses credibility.
What has been going on in our country falls short of the true democratic
path. In fact, it takes the form but removes the essence of democracy,
and there is no room to take our experience as a good example of democratic
practice. Undoubtedly, this reality has been grasped by those in the government
and those outside it, not to mention Arab and foreign observers. Our aim
is to reconstruct these attempts at appearances into a genuine course to
preserve the true essence and remove ‘tailoring’, marginalization, exclusion,
ejection, or monopolistic hegemony over power and mechanisms. Without full
political, economic, social, legal and constitutional reform, such reconstruction
is next too impossible.
Q: As we have entered the third millennium,
how do you conceive the future of Yemen given its present reality?
A: In the new millennium, we look
forward to create conditions that would go beyond what IS to what OUGHT
TO BE. The present condition is ripping the nation apart. And it is a reality
for everyone now that our nation is heading for catastrophe. Inability
is seen on both the government and the opposition. A thorough change in
our vision of the future is needed, in particular of what the country should
look like, of what institutions and mechanism should be put in place to
avoid disintegration and decline, and of what life we should build and
hand over to the coming generations. If we pool our reform efforts together,
a great future will await our country. It would enable us to leave crisis
and inter-fight behind and embark on a great endeavor to build up the Yemeni
man, achieve his aspiration for security, stability, development, prosperity
and exchange of benefits with the others. If we failed, history will never
show mercy on us, and our nation shall not endure beyond their overstretched
limits of forbearance. Before it is too late, the situation demands that
we act promptly to bring conflict, disintegration and crisis to an end.
Q: The League party plays a growing role at
the media level, do you think you are more able in using the impact of
globalization on Yemen and do you think that the present League party information
ability can mobilize the Yemeni public opinion according to a theory saying:”
Information will have an upper hand in the formation of local and world
public opinion?”
A: Yes, the League party, RAY,
plays a growing and effective role, not only at the media level but also
in politics, movement, action and expansion, both vertically (qualitatively)
and horizontally( quantitatively), a fact which any observer may verify.
I agree with you that the League party, RAY, which has
a long experience as one of the earliest and most veteran political
organization in Yemen, commands the ability to deploy advanced instruments
and cope with the realities of the new global order. We should, however,
not confuse ‘globalization’ with informatics and communications.
Globalization is a set of trends, visions or new philosophy to mould
the world system and arrange its political, economic, social and cultural
processes. Informatics and communication , by contrast, are the revolution
which gave birth to the highly advanced communication systems and information
processing, and reduced the globe into a small chamber, or a ‘global village’.
At present, you may switch on your internet-linked computer in your sitting
room and have access to the whole world, in terms of business dealings,
media, information, advertisement, politics, religion or society. This
revolution in information and communication systems and instruments led
to various results, among which are the trends of the new globalized order.
And since the League party, RAY, has been innovative in its political
thinking, it is also innovative in following up the advanced technology
and data of our times and using them for the good of our people and country.
Whatever the theory of information might be, we would not have the
ability to mobilize and rally the public opinion in the right direction
by using
advanced information media, if we had not carried a true content, true
issues, clear visions which meet the demands of the people and coincide
with the interests of society and the aspirations for a better future for
the nation. Let me cite one example. An individual may have a modern television
set, and may switch it on to watch, but this individual will not spend
time watching, no matter how clear the sight and sound may be, unless the
program on the screen meets the desired demands, and coincides with taste
and inclinations of the viewer. The same thing applies to the instruments
of political and information instruments and devices; they alone can not
rally or mobilize public opinion unless they carry an accepted message.
Without the good contents of our party’s vision and orientation, you would
not have observed its growing activity.
Final Part of the interview
next week
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